Reply to thread

Message: [QUOTE="Bombastus, post: 91032, member: 2178"] A hard-panned signal is split between the Mid and Side channels when stereo audio is encoded for Mid/Side processing. That single fact explains why Side-only EQ can move a sound you deliberately placed at the edge. Take a mono sound panned fully left, so the left channel carries the signal and the right channel carries nothing. With the common normalized M/S matrix, Mid becomes half of left plus right, while Side becomes half of left minus right. A hard-left sound therefore appears equally in both encoded channels. This is where the labels trip people up. Side does not mean everything physically sitting at the edges, and Mid does not mean only the center. That matters whenever you touch [B][URL='https://goldmidi.com/community/threads/panorama-audio-labs-introduced-panoramic.76252/']Panoramic's dedicated side-processing chain[/URL][/B] or any other M/S processor. [HEADING=2]Side attenuation creates a new opposite-channel signal[/HEADING] The decoder rebuilds stereo by adding Mid and Side for the left channel, then subtracting Side from Mid for the right. Leave both encoded channels unchanged and a hard-left source returns exactly where it started because the right reconstruction cancels to zero. Now reduce Side to half while leaving Mid alone. An original amplitude of one becomes 0.5 Mid and 0.25 Side, decoding to 0.75 left and 0.25 right. The new right-channel signal comes directly from changing the two components that define stereo position. Remove Side completely, and both outputs become 0.5, which centers the sound. Raise Side above its original level and the opposite channel can reappear with inverted polarity. That can create a wider result whose apparent position extends beyond the loudspeaker pair. That arithmetic also explains why an ordinary Side cut is not equivalent to turning down a track that happens to be panned left. A conventional left-channel gain change preserves its one-sided routing. An M/S adjustment instead changes two encoded components before decoding them back into left and right. Partially panned sounds follow the same rule, just with unequal Mid and Side starting levels. The closer a source already sits to center, the smaller its Side component becomes, so a given Side cut produces less dramatic movement. That is why one M/S setting can leave a near-center keyboard almost unchanged while noticeably pulling a hard-panned guitar inward. Soloing the Side channel can therefore mislead you about where a source actually lives. That encoded signal carries directional difference information, not a standalone copy of the physical edges of the mix. [HEADING=2]Side EQ can move only part of an instrument[/HEADING] An EQ makes the effect frequency dependent. Instead of applying one Side gain to the entire signal, the filter changes Side differently at each frequency. A hard-panned guitar can stay far left in one band while its low mids creep toward center. You can express the same behavior with transfer functions. For a hard-left source, the reconstructed left output follows Mid filtering plus Side filtering. The reconstructed right output follows their difference, so mismatched filters prevent the source from keeping one fixed position across its spectrum. That is the more useful way to hear [B]frequency-shaped stereo position[/B]. A Side high-pass is not merely removing bass from some abstract edge channel. Below its cutoff, the Side contribution falls, and those frequencies move inward, while higher frequencies retain more of their original lateral placement. This matters on drums, doubled guitars, stereo synth layers, room microphones, and any bus carrying strongly panned material. A low-frequency sidecut may tighten the bottom end exactly as intended. The body of a tom or guitar can still become perceptibly narrower because the filter changes its decoded channel balance. [HEADING=2]Filter phase can bend the position further[/HEADING] Minimum-phase filtering adds another variable because its phase shift is frequency dependent. If Mid and Side no longer maintain their original phase relationship, decoding can change localization even where Side level is not heavily reduced. A documented test used hard-left pink noise with a 24 dB-per-octave Side high-pass at 100 Hz. With linear-phase filtering, the removed low frequencies moved toward center while the unaffected upper spectrum stayed left. With minimum-phase filtering, energy around the cutoff crossed past center, and the hard-left position returned only far above the cutoff. That does not make minimum-phase M/S EQ unusable. It means phase mode becomes part of the spatial decision when Mid and Side receive different filters. A change that looks small on an EQ graph can rearrange where separate frequency bands appear between the speakers. When you simply need to change the tone of something living on one physical channel, left/right processing is often cleaner. It avoids first converting that channel into Mid and Side components. M/S processing makes more sense when frequency-dependent width or center-versus-difference control is the intended result. [/QUOTE]

Name