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Message: [QUOTE="Shamiso, post: 92746, member: 160"] Suno’s September 3, 2026 terms assign paid subscribers Suno’s rights in qualifying output while separately keeping a perpetual license over user Content. Both provisions sit in the same agreement and do different legal work. For Pro and Premier users, the ownership language sounds pretty clean at first. Suno says it assigns whatever right, title, and interest it owns in eligible Output generated from your Submissions, subject to the rest of the terms. Its help pages simplify this further by saying paying subscribers own songs created while subscribed and can keep commercial rights after canceling. The less obvious part sits in the broader Content clause. Suno defines Content to include both your Submissions and the Output it generates, then takes a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicensable, assignable, perpetual, and irrevocable license covering uses that include improving its products and related AI models. So the practical answer to whether Suno can still have rights around a paid song is yes, because the contract gives you an ownership interest while reserving Suno a separate license. [HEADING=2]Paid ownership does not erase Suno’s Content license[/HEADING] Ownership and permission are doing different jobs here. An assignment can move Suno’s ownership interest in qualifying Output to you while a license still permits Suno to use the same Content for purposes listed in the agreement. A license can be commercially significant without transferring title, which is why reading only the ownership sentence gives you an incomplete picture. The current wording even says licenses granted under the terms do not diminish a user’s ownership of their Submissions. Suno’s retained permission is also broader than just keeping a backup copy. The clause covers reproduction, storage, modification, distribution, derivative works, performance, display, transmission, monetization, promotion, marketing, and product improvement, including artificial intelligence and machine-learning models. Anyone reading only the paid-plan help page can easily miss most of this because the help page is focused on what you can do commercially, not every permission you grant back to Suno. This is where [B][URL='https://goldmidi.com/community/threads/suno-has-said-v6-was-trained-on-user-creations.78133/']Suno v6 training on user creations[/URL][/B] matters. Suno has now said community creations formed part of the material behind v6, so the model-improvement language in the user agreement is no longer some dusty clause with no obvious connection to the product. It sits next to a real disclosure that user-made material has played a role in model development. [HEADING=2]Commercial rights and training rights answer different questions[/HEADING] Commercial use is about what you can do with a qualifying song. Suno’s paid-plan guidance says subscribers can monetize downloaded tracks, distribute them, place them in film or games, and sell them without Suno taking a share of the earnings. Goldmidi’s [URL='https://goldmidi.com/community/threads/suno-v6-commercial-rights-still-leave-a-copyright-gap.77047/']breakdown of Suno v6 commercial rights[/URL] also shows why this permission should not be confused with guaranteed copyright protection. Training permission points the other way. It describes what Suno may do with Content under the contract, and the current language does not say the permission disappears because the Output came from a Pro or Premier account. Nothing in the paid-account clause says its assignment cancels the broader Content license, and the Content section does not carve paid Output out of model improvement. It also says covered additional uses occur without separate compensation, with use of the service treated as sufficient compensation for the grant of rights. The distinction gets even sharper once copyright enters the picture. [B][URL='https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00146-026-03304-2']AI music authorship is increasingly distributed[/URL][/B] across model design, training data, prompting, and editing. Suno keeps its own contract narrower, warning that its assignment does not guarantee copyright will vest in the Output. [HEADING=2]The retained license survives more than people expect[/HEADING] The word “perpetual” matters because it is not tied to an active monthly subscription. Suno separately tells paid users they keep commercial rights to qualifying songs after canceling, while the Content license is written as perpetual and irrevocable. On the face of the current contract, ending Pro or Premier does not read like a switch that withdraws Suno’s previously granted Content license. Suno also says the license can be sublicensed and assigned, including through multiple tiers, and can cover making Content available to other users where necessary to provide the service. The [URL='https://goldmidi.com/community/threads/sunos-upload-terms-became-evidence-against-it.77662/']existing Goldmidi look at Suno’s upload terms[/URL] digs into the related warranty users give when supplying material, but paid-output ownership adds another wrinkle because users can hold an ownership interest while Suno retains substantial contractual permissions. None of this means Suno owns your paid-plan song in the ordinary sense after assigning its own rights to you. It means “I own this song” is only one part of the contract, and it does not answer every question about who can use the Content, for what purpose, or for how long. If your concern is whether paying for Suno automatically walls your generations off from future model improvement, the current terms do not provide that kind of blanket exclusion. [/QUOTE]

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